Wendy VanderWal Gritter is the Executive Director of Generous Space Ministries, a Canada-based organization that cultivates safe and radically hospitable spaces for conversation about faith, gender and sexuality. Generous Space is committed to eliminating the fear, division and hostility that so often mark the church’s engagement with these issues. She is also the author of Generous Spaciousness, a book that offers pastoral guidance to church leaders, gay Christians and gay advocates, and also chronicles her organization's journey from being an “ex-gay” ministry focused on reorientation to becoming a ministry that cultivates Christ-centered communities marked by a sense of belonging, authenticity, and diversity. In this episode of RePlacing Church, Wendy VanderWal Gritter joins me to discuss:

  • Polarity, relationship, Eugene Peterson* and the current state of the church’s views on homosexuality.
  • How her organization shifted from being an “ex-gay” ministry focused on “reorientation” to becoming a ministry that cultivates generous space for conversation about sexuality.
  • What critics say to her and Generous Space Ministries.
  • How to foster safe and radically hospitable space in conversations about faith, gender and sexuality.
  • How the incarnation shapes how we talk about sexuality.
  • What spiritual practices can sustain people called to stay and renew systems from the inside.
  • Why “queer” culture and Jesus culture actually have a lot in common.

*immiediately after this interview was recorded, Eugene Peterson retracted his comment about same-sex marriage

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Rev. Harriett Walden is the cofounder of Mothers for Police Accountability, an almost 30 year-old Seattle-based organization that advocates for the dignity and security of the whole community against injustices in law enforcement and the criminal justice system; educates young people on their legal rights and responsibilities in relationship with the police; and organizes partner organizations to hold police accountable. She is a member of Seattle’s Community Police Commission and hosts the “Mother’s Justice Show,” a radio program with the mission to increase dialogue in the community about police accountability, constitutional policing and justice.

She has been a facilitator with the Virtues Project, promoting kindness, justice and integrity in every life, worked to break the silence of black on black crime, and served as the interim pastor of multiple congregations. Rev. Walden joins me in this episode of RePlacing Church to discuss:

  • Why the fatal shooting of Charleena Lyles is the result of systemic failure in the police department
  • Why deescalation training is essential for police officers encountering mental health crises
  • Sustaining practices for social justice advocates
  • Why she founded Mothers for Police Accountability
  • How a theology of absolution contributes to police brutality
  • What troubles her about the church
  • What white people need to do to fight racism

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Christiana Rice is the coauthor with Michael Frost of To Alter Your World: Partnering with God to Rebirth Our Communities. Christiana is an on-the ground practitioner and visionary voice in the missional movement, serving as a coach and trainer for missional leaders with Thresholds, based in San Diego, CA where she leads a neighborhood faith community in the Golden Hill neighborhood. A daughter and granddaughter of missionaries, Christiana grew up in Tokyo, Japan. Whether teaching and coaching global leaders, engaging the deeper spiritual longings of her neighbors or embracing the sacred mundane of daily life with her family and her community, Christiana seeks participate in God’s restoration of all things. In this episode of RePlacing Church, we talked about:

  • How being a “Third Culture Kid” has shaped her sense of connection to place
  • Why we need to shift the conversation from saving the church to altering the world
  • How changing our metaphors alters our understanding of church planting
  • How listening to stories transform our capacity to be present in our neighborhoods
  • 6 promises that members of a neighborhood faith community can make to each other
  • The transformative power of coaching

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Colleen Echohawk is the Executive Director of the Chief Seattle Club in Seattle’s historic Pioneer Square neighborhood, a non-profit dedicated to meeting the needs of homeless and low-income urban Native people in Seattle. The Chief Seattle Club provides a sacred space to nurture, affirm and renew the spirit of urban Native people. Colleen Echohawk is an enrolled member of the Kithehaki Band of the Pawnee Nation and a member of the Upper Ahtna Athabascan people of Mentasta Lake. She serves on multiple boards, including KUOW (National Public Radio member station), All Home Coordinating Board, Metropolitan Improvement District, Pioneer Square Preservation Board and is the board chair at Red Eagle Soaring Native Youth Theatre. As co-founder and principal at Headwater People Consulting Group, she is interested in working with community to create systems and structures that help facilitate wellness and encourages kindness and courage. In this episode of RePlacing Church, she joins me to discuss:

  • How the Chief Seattle Club provides a sacred space to nurture, affirm and renew the spirit of urban Native people.
  • How a native song transformed a dirty downtown alley into a place of remembrance and empowerment
  • What the Urban Relocation Act of 1956 was and its impact on Native communities
  • 3 ways non-Native people can honor the Native communities that originally inhabited the particular places where they now live
  • How to create a culture of wellness in a workplace that engages significant trauma
  • What organizations can do to invite different cultural perspectives
  • Why our world needs to hear the Native voice right now

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Is a worship gathering enough to form us in the way of Jesus? Or are there other ways we can gather? Do "good teaching" and thoughtful worship actually increase our longing for God's kingdom? Or is there another more powerful and formative way?

In this episode of RePlacing Church, I interact with my friend Matt’s mastery of Sonos sound systems, the work of philosopher James K.A. Smith in You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit and the insights of futurist Kevin Kelly in The Inevitable: 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future to explore how we can create spaces beyond Sunday to reform the church in the way of Jesus.

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Michael Mata is the director of the transformational urban leadership program at Azusa Pacific Seminary. An experienced urban planner and pastor, Michael has spent over 30 years in leading and equipping others in urban transformation through the creation of community and church-based programs. His work has focused on community transformation, youth leadership development, public health, intercultural outreach, and multiethnic ministry. Mata serves as community transformation specialist for Compassion Creates Change, Inc., and was the director of Tools for Transformation for World Vision’s U.S. programs. In this episode of RePlacing Church, he joins me to discuss:

  • Why transformational urban leadership is needed
  • How to empower urban youth
  • Tools for engaging your neighborhood’s “built environment”
  • How to read the spirituality of your neighborhood
  • How churches can help neighborhoods move from gentrification to “gentefication”

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Gideon Tsang is a pastor with Vox Veniae in east Austin, Texas which pioneered Space 12, a unique non-profit collaborative space which serves as a neighborhood gathering point hosting art shows, concerts, slam poetry events, computer classes, and dance classes, while partnering with neighborhood associations and varying organizations. In this episode of RePlacing Church, he joins me to talk about:

  • How the city gave their church their voice
  • Learning how to release agendas
  • The joys and struggles of starting a third space as a church
  • Pastoral burnout and the challenges of slowing down in a frantic culture
  • How not to be a pastor obsessed with performance (especially on Easter)
  • Why talent is a curse

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Sarah van Gelder is an activist and storyteller. She is the author of The Revolution Where You Live: Stories from 12,000 Miles Journey Through A New America. She co-founded the award-winning YES! Magazine over 20 years ago and has been an editor and contributor ever since. She also writes for the Guardian, Huffington Post and other publications, speaks internationally and is a guest on radio and television. Sarah is passionate about highlighting the work that we the people are doing to reinvent our economy, grow local foods, solve the climate challenge, create alternatives to prisons, and more. She lives on the Suquamish Tribe’s reservation west of Seattle, where she collaborated with tribal leaders to secure the return of the land where Chief Seattle lived. She also paddles with the tribe on their annual canoe journey. Sarah has lived in India, China, and Central America. She was a founding board member and resident of Winslow Cohousing. In episode of RePlacing Church, she joins me to talk about:

  • Why she took a 12,000 mile roadtrip and what she discovered
  • What Native Americans teach us about place
  • Stories of local communities combatting racism, environmental exploitation and economic disparity
  • How “land speculation” is a threat to revitalization in economically distressed urban areas
  • Why our politics must be rooted in the local
  • Why we need a “culture of connection” instead of an “economy of extraction”
  • How to cultivate local power

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Dominique Gilliard is the author of Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice that Restores (IVP, Spring 2018) and the Director of Racial Righteousness and Reconciliation for the Love Mercy, Do Justice ministry initiative of the Evangelical Covenant Church (ECC), where he is an ordained minister. Dominique has served in pastoral ministry in Atlanta, Chicago and Oakland. He also serves on the board of directors for the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA). The ECC named Dominique to its list of “40 Under 40” leaders to watch and the Huffington Post named him as one of the “Black Christian Leaders Changing the World.” In this episode of RePlacing Church, he joins me to discuss:

  • How the incarceration of Paul and Silas influenced him
  • How our incarceration system is predicated on dehumanization, isolation and exploitation
  • How penal substitution theology has led to our American punitive criminal justice models
  • Racial disparities and incarceration
  • How for-profit private prisons have increased incarceration
  • How the Bible advocates for restorative justice and what Christians can do

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Dominique Gilliard is the author of Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice that Restores (IVP, Spring 2018) and the Director of Racial Righteousness and Reconciliation for the Love Mercy, Do Justice ministry initiative of the Evangelical Covenant Church (ECC), where he is an ordained minister. Dominique has served in pastoral ministry in Atlanta, Chicago and Oakland. He also serves on the board of directors for the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA). The ECC named Dominique to its list of “40 Under 40” leaders to watch and the Huffington Post named him as one of the “Black Christian Leaders Changing the World.” In this episode of RePlacing Church, he joins me to discuss:

  • How the police killing of 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston awakening him to the injustices of the mass incarceration system
  • The present day legacy of “Sundown towns” and lynching, the practice of “spectacle lynchings,” and the church’s silence in the face of lynching.
  • What the incarnation of Jesus means for the church politically
  • How the church can resist “empire”
  • How the church sometimes uses the language of neighbor to exclude.

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